'I didn’t know where to go': Refugee men want change on the 'taboo' conversation on trauma and mental health

Warning: this article discusses suicide, trauma and violence.

Designs by Nourhane Saudie

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'Just laugh it off, come on you are a man'

Majed Al-Hanooch has been playing his guitar as a hobby to keep himself occupied during lockdown. (Supplied)

Majed Al-Hanooch has been playing his guitar as a hobby to keep himself occupied during lockdown. (Supplied)

Majed Al Hanooch came to Melbourne as a refugee in late 2017 at the age of 16. It was “not easy” for him as he had to leave parts of his culture in Iraq because his family needed to find safety. 

He comes from a Christian family and if they stayed in their home country they could suffer religious persecution from ISIS. 

“I was kind of young but old at the same time,” he said. “I just got used to it”.

Mr Al Hanooch is now in his first year of university studying computer science. But he has experienced depression and anxiety since coming to Australia and lockdown has not helped.

There have been times where he thought about suicide.

He has a mindset of “getting used to it” or “pushing through” instead of seeing a psychologist or reaching out to friends about his wellbeing.

He said he knows this is not the right way to approach things, but it is how he grew up and how it is like for older men in his community.

“Just laugh it off, come on you are a man, just man up,” he said he often hears.

According to the latest data by the ABS from June 2021, one in five (20 per cent) Australians experienced high or very high levels of psychological distress. More than half of refugees in Australia are living with mental illness, with up to a third suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD). Experts say refugee men are more vulnerable.

The men in this story fled their home country of Iraq with their families to escape religious persecution by ISIS for practising Christianity. While they are physically safer in Australia, their mental health is still vulnerable. They are now speaking up about it.

Chief executive of the NSW Service for the Treatment and Rehabilitation of Torture and Trauma Survivors, Jorge Aroche

Chief executive of the NSW Service for the Treatment and Rehabilitation of Torture and Trauma Survivors, Jorge Aroche

Refugee men can “find it harder to recognise” they are suffering from mental illness, said Jorge Aroche, chief executive of the NSW Service for the Treatment and Rehabilitation of Torture and Trauma Survivors (STARTTS).  

“The level of the stigma will vary, but I think it predominantly tends to be higher with men than women,” he said.

Mr Aroche said refugee men have had the pressure of maintaining stability for those close to them and they can come from situations where “they've been doing their best to survive and many of their friends and relatives are not able to survive”.

“You tend to rely on basically whatever worked… it can be quite a process to leave that stigma behind,” he said.

Through this, their mental health issues can “remain hidden longer” and seek help at “critical points” like self-harm and violence.

Kahtan Gog (Supplied)

Kahtan Gog (Supplied)

‘40-year-old child’

Kahtan Gog said he felt “hopeless” and experienced depression when he first moved to Melbourne as a refugee from Iraq.

He got to a point where he struggled to get out of bed.

“The first question that came to mind when I woke up was, ‘why am I awake? What's the reason and purpose?’”

Kahtan Gog (Supplied)

Kahtan Gog (Supplied)

Starting life from scratch made him feel like “a 40-year-old child” who had to relearn everything.

The pressure of finding work and learning English while adjusting to a new environment impacted his mental health greatly. 

He saw negative moods experienced by other male refugee friends too.

Mr Gog even considered seeing a psychologist, but he “couldn’t do it”.

“Maybe because we are not used to it, maybe it’s our culture, the thought was new for me,” Mr Gog said.

Kahtan holding hands with his son.

Oshy when visiting Petra. (Supplied)

Oshy when visiting Petra. (Supplied)

‘No one called us’ about mental health

While there is a stigma, men like Oshy Yalda, 30, say he has not been reached out about mental health.

Dr Yalda arrived in Melbourne as a refugee in May this year. Since coming to Australia, he has spent most of his time at home in lockdown. He said he has lacked mental health support from health professionals since arriving in Australia. 

“No one called us to talk about our mental health, not even the doctors, not even the GPs here,” Dr Yalda said.

“There’s not enough support,” he said.

“As part of the Immigration Medical Examination for all refugees, a mental health screening examination is undertaken to identify any mental health conditions or history,” said a spokesperson from the Department of Home Affairs.

But Dr Yalda said he did not receive a mental health screening when arriving. 

Upon post-arrival to Australia, refugees also undergo a general health examination and are set up on the Humanitarian Settlement Program (HSP).

“The HSP recognises that a person’s physical and mental wellbeing is an essential component of successful settlement,” the spokesperson said.

But Dr Yalda who is on the HSP said they “never mentioned mental health or wellbeing”. 

He said this needs more attention and for mental health screenings to be part of doing a routine GP check to help identify mental illnesses earlier. 

“Maybe I have issues, I don't know if I have issues,” Dr Yalda said.

Even though he said it is a “very taboo” topic in his community, he thinks it is still an important issue for men to care about. 

Oshy Yalda (Supplied).

‘I didn’t know where to go’ to seek mental health support

When Zaid Jirjees came to Melbourne as a refugee from Iraq in 2017, he was faced with pressure to get a job and take care of his family. Being new to Melbourne, he felt alone because he did not know any friends he could reach out to for support.

“I managed to control this by myself, you know,” he told us. 

He did not know where to seek mental health support which made it “very stressful” for him to settle in Australia.

“They [the government] wanted me to find a job very, very, quickly in the first six months...so that was extremely hard for me,” Mr Jirjees said.

“I felt sometimes confused mixed with anger, ‘why is this happening?’” he said.

Mr Jirjees said he did not get help because he “didn’t know where to go”.  

“The main issue with men is actually how to get started, to get started is very, very difficult.”

COVID-19 restrictions may ‘trigger’ refugees traumatic experiences

Due to COVID-19 lockdowns, there has been an increase in anxiety and worry between April and August from about 50 per cent to 60 per cent in Australia.

Photo by Markus Winkler on Unsplash

Photo by Markus Winkler on Unsplash

Refugees can be impacted in various ways with some more “severe” than others. From trauma, they can experience issues like PTSD, anxiety, difficulties sleeping and concentration issues. 

Mr Aroche said the COVID-19 restrictions may remind some refugees of distressing experiences before entering Australia like “long queues, empty streets, additional police, helicopters hovering around”.

These can be reminders of conflict back in their home country, war or other situations refugees have experienced. 

“Some can take it in stride, but for others who are more vulnerable, it can trigger intrusive memories and trigger reactions, which can make them more anxious,” Mr Aroche said.

In rural and regional areas of Australia, the stigma in reaching out about mental health can be increased due to a smaller refugee community.

It can make people “stand out” which can make it difficult for people to reach out according to Kaye Graves, the senior leader for refugee and cultural diversity programs at Bendigo Community Health in Victoria.

Ms Graves said some refugees may have “no concept of mental health”.

“To describe how you feel to someone that is new to you is very difficult, that trust has to be built,” she said.

She said there are “covert mental health issues”, which create additional barriers to engage men into her services.

But she aims to tackle this in a casual way to open up the doors to conversations. 

“Food, trusted environments, credible people, over weeks or months to build the trust and engagement is the way to stop this,” she said.

Young men ‘particularly vulnerable’

A stigma to either continue or change

Majed Al-Hanooch (Supplied)

Majed Al-Hanooch (Supplied)

Mr Aroche of STARTTS said COVID-19 is making it more difficult to reach out to young men who are at a critical stage of development with stigma in the way.

“They have not been able to learn the skills to communicate with other people in a peaceful situation…or learn to express their attraction to people,” he said.

Mr Aroche said we “need to put more money” into working with young men in and outside school settings as they are “particularly vulnerable”.

As a young man, Mr Al-Hanooch wants current and future generations to change the mindset on mental health in the Arab and refugee community.

“We say only psychotic people go to see a psychologist,” he said.  But he understands this mindset and language can be harmful and stigmatic.

“We should really just get used to new habits, instead of the bad habits we lived before, this way we can actually help others,” Mr Al Hanooch said.

A spokesperson from the Department of Health said “any refugees feeling in need of mental health support at this time are encouraged to contact Foundation House, Cabrini Health, Monash Health or the Asylum Seeker Resource Centre which all provide specialist mental health support for people from refugee backgrounds.”

“The pandemic has shown now more than ever, we can’t lose sight of what matters most and that is the health and wellbeing of every Victorian - including Victorians from refugee backgrounds.”

If you or anyone you know needs help:

  • Lifeline on 13 11 14
  • Kids Helpline on 1800 551 800
  • MensLine Australia on 1300 789 978
  • Suicide Call Back Service on 1300 659 467
  • Yarning SafeNStrong on 1800 95 95 63
  • Beyond Blue on 1300 224 636
  • Headspace on 1800 650 890
  • ReachOut at au.reachout.com
  • Care Leavers Australasia Network (CLAN) on 1800 008 774
  • HeadtoHelp on 1800 595 212
  • Brother to Brother on 1800 435 799
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